I've met several elderly patients whose all parents and family members had been killed by Armenians during 1910's. Therefore what's happening now really makes me sorry. As an amateur, During my internet political forum discussions I have developed a new idea of supporting Turkish claims about Armenian issue. I feel like Armenians are not able to hide the truth while they telling their important men's life stories. As a sample you will see Andranik Pasha's life story down here. I hope you will like it.Feel free using it, in part or as a whole, changing it, posting it anywhere with or without any reference to my name..
Some critical qoutes from the movie Ararat:
Ali, actor playing Jevdet Bey: Are you gonna shoot me or something? Look, I never heard about any of this stuff when I was growing up. You know? I did some research for the part. From what I read there were deportations and lots of people died. Armenians and Turks. It was World War 1.
Raffi: But Turkey wasn't at war with the Armenians. I mean, just like Germany wasn't at war with the Jews. They were citizens. They were expecting to be protected. That scene you just shot was based on an eyewitness account. Your character Jevdet Bey, the only reason they put him in Van was to carry out the complete extermination of the Armenian population in Van. There were telegrams, there were communicators... "
The critical words here are "Turkey wasn't at war with the Armenians. I mean, just like Germany wasn't at war with the Jews. They were citizens." Usual Armenian story tells us that "Suddenly Turks decided to make a genocide, because they are "genocidal".
Let's read Armenian Hero General Andranik's (Andranik Pasha) life story. (As taken from an Armenian source, directly written by Armenian hands!):
GENERAL ANDRANIK'S LIFE: "The first name in the Armenian struggle for national liberation in modern times is Andranik. "Like an eagle he soars over the mountains and ridges." Andranik Toros Ozanian was born in historic Shabin-Karahisar ("Shabin, the black fortress," 80 miles northeast of Erzurum). He was destined more, perhaps, than any of the other Armenian revolutionaries, to provide leadership, rationality, acumen, prudence, and effectiveness to Armenia's rising up against the brutal Ottoman oppression. Even during his adolescence Andranik recognized the pattern of Ottoman oppression and the sufferings of his people. So it was that at the tender age of 22, having lost his wife and two children, Andranik joined a partisan group formed in his native town. Inspired with the ideals of liberation for his people, Andranik went to Constantinople to meet those who had already been deeply involved in the liberation movement. He readily accepted tasks assigned to him.
When the leader, Serob Aghbiur, of a fighting group which Andranik had joined, was killed, Andranik was named leader. It was in 1901 when his fighting group held out in the Arakelots Vank against an overwhelmingly superior force that Andranik's name became famous for his effectiveness as a revolutionary leader. There were many more similar occurrences to come. Andranik, at first, joined the Hunchak party; it was through party organization that he could be effective in securing men and materiel with which to carry on. But disagreement with party policies led Andranik to leave the Hunchak ranks and join the Dashnak party.
There too, when that party engaged in practices judged to be wrong in principle, Andranik resigned. During the period 1907-13 Andranik committed his energies to helping the Bulgarian liberation movement. In it he created an Armenian division, which brought honor to itself by its effective participation. For his efforts Andranik was decorated and commissioned an officer. With World War I under way (1914-1918) Andranik went to the Caucasus and assisted in organizing Armenian battle units to fight the Turks alongside the Russian army units. In 1915 Andranik was named commander of all Armenian volunteer units within the Russian army.The overthrow of the Tsarist regime in Russia (1917) and the consequent collapse of the Russian imperial army found Andranik on the side of the working class out of which the social revolution in Russia had arisen. Early in 1918 he began to organize a separate army to liberate western Armenia. Made a Major General, Andranik had many thousands under his command, Armenian soldiers from the old Russian army, and many thousand Armenians who had volunteered from all over the world. However, short on re-sources and back-up military fighting units, Andranik had to abandon his plan to take Erzurum. With the collapse of the Tsarist Russian government an independent Armenian Republic was set up in May 1918. Andranik was in sympathy with the social principles that came with the new Russian order and desired to maintain amicable relations with Russia. However, Armenia's ruling party, the Dashnaks, did not favor such a relationship. As a result Andranik once again had a falling out with them. The brilliant defense of Zangezur (1918-19) under Andranik's command marked the end of his military career"LET'S TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT THE IMPORTANT POINTS IN ANDRANIK PASHA'S LIFE STORY: 1-"Born in historic Shabin-Karahisar ("Shabin, the black fortress in Turkish," 80 miles northeast of Erzurum)." Means he is a native son of Ottoman Empire...Although passports were not so popular that time if he would have one it would certainly be a Turkish passport.
2-"He was destined more, perhaps, than any of the other Armenian revolutionaries, to provide leadership, rationality, acumen, prudence, and effectiveness to Armenia's rising up against the brutal Ottoman oppression."
That means long before 1915, he was organising "a revolution". Generally if it is an "ethnic revolution" we can call it "uprising". They use the term "rising up" anyway. When you change it upside down it is uprising. Of course against Turkey...Their official country. Again this happens long before 1915. And he is not the only one.There are other "revolutionists". He is the one with gifts of leadership etc...Those revolutionists here are NOT "Young Turks" who are preparing a movement against Sultan's dictatorship that affects Turks too.. Our Pasha's main interest is: ARMENIA's rising up against Turkey.
3-"Andranik joined a partisan group formed in his native town. Inspired with the ideals of liberation for his people, ."
Obviously there were Armenian partisans in his native town, probably sice from a long time ago. He was inspired with the ideals of liberation for his people which means Armenians. That time there was revolutionary Turkish movement too,against Sultan Hamid's tyranic regime but in text it clearly talks about a group of Armenians.We can call them insurgents too. They were aiming an independent "Western Armenian" state. That means Eastern Anatolia, in other words Turkey. Again and again this things happen long before WW1 and 1915, or so called "genocide years".
4-"Andranik went to Constantinople to meet those who had already been deeply involved in the liberation movement.He readily accepted tasks assigned to him.When the leader, Serob Aghbiur, of a fighting group which Andranik had joined, was killed, Andranik was named leader. "
Clearly there are other Armenians in Istanbul in the rebellion movement.Again these people are not revolutionary groups related to anti-sultan movement. Their group leader is an Armenian and they aim is related to Armenia. Certainly not "freedom for the whole empire".I wonder what kind of tasks were readily accepted by him? They are as the group "deeply involved" in rebellion. Looks like his group also fights time to time. Remember: We are still a long way from 1915, so called "Genocide" years, Armenians are not unarmed and loyal...
5-"During the period 1907-13 Andranik committed his energies to helping the Bulgarian liberation movement. In it he created an Armenian division, which brought honor to itself by its effective participation."
Until 1913 he participates in Bulgarian Liberation movement, of course against Turks. Obviously he never participates in anything which is not against Turks. He fights against his country with a group of other Armenians. He makes his job with great success. As an "unarmed, loyal citizen of Turkey". " They were all citizens of Turkey and they were expecting to be protected!"
6-"With World War I under way (1914-1918) Andranik went to the Caucasus and assisted in organizing Armenian battle units to fight the Turks alongside the Russian army units."
Now WW1 started. It is still 1914. No genocide yet. As soon as WW1 starts some Armenians and their Pasha, as citizens of Turkey have joined Russian Army...Armenians from Eastern and "Western" Armenia's fighting together against Turkish Army. Western Armenians are now shooting Turkish soldiers from the back. Easterns from the front. Now remember Raffi's touchy words:
"Turkey wasn't at war with the Armenians. I mean, just like Germany wasn't at war with the Jews. They were citizens. They were expecting to be protected."
Has anyone of you heard about any Jews plotting against Germans, commiting uprisings, fighting against Germans BEFORE genocide?
7-"In 1915 Andranik was named commander of all Armenian volunteer units within the Russian army."
That makes him "Commander of Traitors". Again he fights against Turkey. That means in so called "genocide years" he was the commander of 150 000 Armenians in Russian Army...Some of them from Eastern Armenia. Many of them (like our Pasha) from Turkey....
8-"Andranik had many thousands under his command, Armenian soldiers from the old Russian army, and many thousand Armenians who had volunteered from all over the world."
"Many thousand Armenians from all over the world" . It is known to be around 150000.
9-"However, short on re-sources and back-up military fighting units, Andranik had to abandon his plan to take Erzurum".
That means he was good in killing unarmed Turks in small villages and towns, hoping to repeat it in larger cities like Erzurum (they did it in Van, almost all Turks in that city were killed in one day) but he could not do it.Why: Because; lack of reusorces!
The whole story was a series of bilateral killings. Started by Armenians. You have already read the Antranik's story. Have you ever heard about any Jewish Generals;, Jewish insurgents, Jewish force striking, fighting Jewish Units etc. in Nazi Germany? You can not compare two situations. That's why Armenians are trying to push bans on discussion of "Genocide" issue. If people discuss it, world will learn the truth. Countries such as France, Switzerland have already accepted acts banning discussion of "genocide" issue.
They lie, and they know it. Of course Turks killed many Armenians, it was a total human tragedy but
1-Armenians started the events. They were also fighting against Turkey and acting as traitors with collaboration with Russian Army during Turkish-Russian war. 2- Armenians killed many Turks too...
As "you can see here they can not even tell their National Hero's life story without ruining their false genocide scenario. In every word of a single man's story you can see many lies.
Truth is within Armenian life stories from 1910's. Every single of them proves that they are the liying side. Armenian life stories proves that during 1913-1915 there was a Russian backed Armenian uprising and they were all involving in it . They are undeniable, simple Armenian life stories. Written everywhere by Armenian people. Nobody can not change them. As we review new Armenian -celebrity life stories from that time, with every single person's life story one-sided genocide scenario will turn in to a ruin. Because in most of them they are telling their heroic fights and their great successes against Turks, while claiming that Armenians were unarmed and loyal to Otoman Goverment...
Friends: find an Armenian's life story with chronological order in internet. Of course they should be important persons from "genocide" time. Look what they have been doing between 1910-1918. You will see the undeniable proves of Armenian rebellion. Not a one sided Turkish made genocide.
It is so simple!